OK, dianond tours own shaft in smoke is just gorgous,and cheap,(deep smoke,or gold) DTs heads, and winn grips. Who is going to take those remarks seriously? Speaking of non OEM brands, which of the following irons will be best quality for play- Maltby, Wishon,, Alpha, Kzg, Hireko, etc. No bubble but the Taylor colors. I mostly buy OEM equipment, but I have bought components. Got it, thanks! Your previous content has been restored. Iron 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,Pitching Wedge,Approach Wedge,Sand Wedge or, Set with Graphite/Steel Shafts for Right Handed Golfers, Iron 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,PW for Men & Women,Right Handed, Set for Men & Women (4,5,6,7,8,9,P,A,S) or Individual Iron 7,Left/Right Handed,37.5 Inch, 7 for Golfer Slower Swing Speeds, Reduced Strain on The Old Elbows and Wrists, Help Shots Go Farther, Men & Women Right Handed, Iron Set, Mens Right Hand 5-6-7-8-9-PW-GW, (2&3) Right or Left Hand Steel Shaft Regular Flex. THIS IS A FACT. I also have a few different sets of clubs and many extra clubs lying around the house. I have no sympathy for these so called established companies, if they reduce their prices the clone companies will not be able to compete and make enough money to make it worth their while. My DTG S2 Pros were both on spec. Ping, TaylorMade, Callaway, Nike, etc. As far as irons are concerned, as long as the material used is of a certain quality Ive come to the conclusion that stamped metal is stamped metal. Years ago Maltby (Golfworks founder) did a quality study on the tolerances of his clubs versus clones, dont recall if he sampled OEMs as well. It does however cost money to get started in golf. and its fitted perfectly to you,(from your pros stats) everyone looks at my clubs, and get really impressed by the beauty,..and they play very good. There just simply is not the time or money right now to go after them. While not a tremendous amount in raw form, from a percentage standpoint it works out to an increase of 15.7%, which when youre trying to keep a ball in the short grass, probably is a significant amount, and helps to explain the difference in accuracy between the clubs. I recently purchased, and have been hitting a fitted set of Ping G30 irons. Can clone golf clubs perform as well as the higher priced name brand golf clubs?. Ball Speed As you might expect, higher clubhead speed produces higher ball speed. i will give you this professionals point of view. Callaway threatened to sue Kent Graphtec over its Big Bursar driver, alleging patent, trademark and trade dress (trademark-design) infringement. Four yardincrements makes it hard to play a course. Take a look back at some of the old clubs and you will see theres nothing new. On average the apex of each shot was justslightlyunder 2.5 yards higher with the Burner, which along with higher ball and club head speeds explains the difference in carry yardage between the clubs. Love them. . Further, if the same tip diameter shaft (likely .335) is used for both, the shim that wouldve been used for the Burner would not effect the performance in any way. Ive tried Hirekos Green Ghost and Blue Crush and DTGs FGS Nano and Id put them up against anything out there. Upload or insert images from URL. I used Geek Drivers in Senior Long Drive Competitions, none of which I won, but it wasnt because of the Geek equipment, it was a faulty swinger (me) not the equipment. SWIFT) Asfar as the lower end of components go, the only ones that really deserve the bad rap are the "clones". But not the component club heads. Probably because I used cheap shafts I already had that were not really to my likening regarding feel/weighting. For actual testing we used the same protocols we use for our ULTIMATE Reviews. I think that you are just talking B.S. Director) believes that most stock shafts are good enough for the average golfer. If golfers were in the world of buying by results club sales would shrink to almost zero. Clone/Knock-Off Golf Clubs: Have cosmetic resemblance to true Manufacturer Clubs, but internally they are not the same. Its unfortunate that it is that way- but these clones/component brands do offer some that may not otherwise get the pleasure of playing such a great game a chance to do so. I ran a small clubmaking andrepair business in the late 80's and early 90's and bought from Golfworks, Golfsmith, and Dynacraft. These cases have been won in other industries. Fast forward to now and Dynacraft is Hireko complete with Jeff Summit, a go to guru on club building and perfotmance that worked Dynacraft with Tom Wishon. Counterfeit/Copy Golf Clubs: Are direct copies of OEM equipment. We were one of the first companies to import from China. Clones have come a long way since the dark ages. The 2nd tier often makes some of the mid-size golf companies that a lot of you play but they also make some of the top components and clones for companies like. In fact each of our testers produced average speeds 2-3 MPH faster with the Burner. If you cant afford the latest and greatest, do some research and find something that will work for you at a price you can afford. Are there bad clonesYES. The assertion made that many Clones are made in the same factories as OEM clubs is unsubstantiated and simply incorrect. All Levels of Golfers Beginners to Advanced. Research is provided by credible journalist who have been there, the FTC, and the U.S. Anyway shot an 83 at a course I never played on with clubs I never swung before. I have the Dynacraft CNC forged wedge that's currently for sale on Hireko's site. . I can only hit a drive about 180 anymore and the Thriver gets me there. Some, like Frank Thomas (former USGA Tech. It is just that simple! All three are quality products, at least as far as I can tell. From affordable golf clubs for those on a budget, mint golf clubs, and many used golf clubs with light cosmetic wear. Odyssey Putters; Clearance Golf Clubs Up to $180 Off TaylorMade Stealth Golf Clubs; PING G425 Golf Clubs; Shop All PING Golf Clubs; Super Game Web1 Acer SR1 Fairway Woods $94.99 Acer XV Irons $44.99 Rating: 3 Acer XV Pro Irons $44.99 Rating: 1 Acer SR1 Hybrids $79.99 Acer XDS Fairway Woods $94.99 Rating: 6 Acer XDS Extreme Draw Fairway Woods $94.99 Acer XDS Extreme Draw Titanium Driver $159.99 Rating: 1 Acer XV Ultimate Thriver $169.99 Rating: 9 Acer XV Thriver Mini MyGolfSpy, INC. All rights reserved. My point is: high handicappers dont hit the ball well enough, or consistently enough, to notice a difference in performance. I have found lots of Maltby lovers on here. That would tell us all something about OEM vs non OEM in general this test didnt do that. Wishon was (and is) a design leader. I saw they also have a dual length set for people that just don't want to play long 6i length short irons. Those involved in this great game should have a certain level of ethics. I have built clubs as a hobby for some time and certainly am happy to hear your testing results on brand names vs. clones. Do the clubs from Hireko stand up to Maltby? Anybody that uses a cheap clone head should be able to figure out why theres such a difference in price. WebUsed Golf Clubs. It is your decision and right (for the time being) to buy a Clone/Knock-Off. Shafts can make a huge difference, and fitting an expensive aftermarket shaft in a $50 clone driver seems well, counter-intuitive. Welcome to 2nd Swing - Shop Over 100,000 New and Used Clubs +, Online Only, Exclusions Apply - Extra 45% OFF Already Discounted Apparel with code, Complete Set Sale: Men's & Women's Name Brand From $529.99. Regripping We offer all of the grips offered by Golf Pride, Lamkin, Winn, and Super Stroke. For the clone model we tested a Heated H, which wed classify as a mid-teir clone of TaylorMades once popular driver. Do yourself a favor and spend the extra money you save on clubs with clones getting lessons to improve your swing. https://www.hirekogolf.com/golf-components/clubheads/golf-irons/acer-xv-pro-iron-clubhead.html. Club fitting should never be a guessing game.We incorporate Trackman technology the finest launch monitor fitting capabilities to insure each customer receives the best equipment for their individual swing. Make yourself aware. Most golfers lump OEM Components in with clones even though these companies do their own R&D and have no intention of copying other companies. Funny how the name brand club manufacturers try to bury information that might hurt their status and sales. You can do lab tests forever, but if a club does not feel right for your swing, it doesnt matter how it did in tests. (LOVE THE MILITARY CAMO BAG THEY HAVE only $59 too ;). Amazon.com: Single Length Golf Irons Factory heads seldom are more than 1-2 grams off specification. It's a combination driver and fairwaywood. The Heated, the Heated offers too much of a compromise, even at a 1/3 the money. Fill out the form below and a member from our team will get in touch! Of course the currently have their hands and funds fully committed going after Counterfeit Clubs. I bought it and it was perfect. Learn more about Tim. Lie Angle Adjustments We can change lie angles to fit your golf swing in almost any golf club. usually its the loft and lies that are way off but then you have the improper weighting/balance and the occasional head that goes flying down the range . Dont lump everyone into a category. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. As much as I preach performance first, theres only so much Im willing to sacrifice in terms of esthetics, sound, and feel. No one knows how sloppy things are manufactured unless you are right watching and know what you are watching for. Yes, I know this is a 2011 article. I suppose it may have been clever to put that in my first post. Lets go back to Hickory shafted clubs, even then there were manufacturers inserting steel shafts inside. Thank you. WebCobra KING TEC One Length Custom Utility Iron. WebThe suggested mens length for the Pinhawk Vertex is 38" (for the 3, 4 and 5 irons) and 36.5", which are a typical 5 and 8 iron lengths respectively. Im not a big fan of clones or knock-offs. If you choose to purchase new golf clubs from us, your clubs will be custom-built to your specifications at prices comparable to major online retailers. Square headed drivers made from wood in the 1800s. Tony is the Editor of MyGolfSpy where his job is to bring fresh and innovative content to the site. While I remember the ACER brand back in the mid 90's, I think Hireko started early 2000's (could be off here). still undecided on shaft. Most of us who choose to play clones most likely at some point played name brand clubs. As far as woods go, I stick with the name brands because there is a lot more to a wood than just to look like the other. Bigger golf companies have more money to spend on the details, and while ultimately those details many not directly impact performance, I can tell you with certainty that given two clubs with similar performance attributes, the prettier one will always sell bettereven if its more expensive. Some of you that shout the accolades of name brand clubs and tell everyone else the pitfalls of playing clones you probably never hit a quality clone before. I have also seen some really good clubs, despite being complete knockoffs. Which they are doing, but it is costly. Component Golf Clubs: Such as, INFINITI, SMT, NAKASHIMA, and KZG, are original designs and are legitimate and ARE NOT part of any reference. Shop products from small business brands sold in Amazons store. I give them 5 stars. I paired that up w a recoil pull and I love that club, it's my go-to for tee shots if driver isn't behaving. Hed have the components assembled at his warehouse outside of Los Angeles and would distribute them to retailers all over the U.S. The golf business was so good between 1991 and 97, you could sell anything, Jethro says. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Having been in manufacturing all my life and seen what quality can and cannot be, I wonder about the quality of all clubs today. This is a topic Im always interested in. Not the muscle blade. And I think you might be in for quite a surprise! still hitting clone irons. But one youve never seen put through a test like we will today . Im broke n in college so i wanted a cheap set of irons to get me started. The name brand guyslaugh as they gaze at the clones with icy cold contempt. It would have been interesting to see how the original performed.