You dont even know the reason why Monsanto is buying so many seed companies. 0000022414 00000 n There is nothing wrong with my logic. [4] However, Ferry quickly re-organized the company, bought seeds from outside sources and absorbed two smaller seed companies, and the company managed to fill orders for its customers. But please own your words, since those original words I found objectional, and I respect you for what you say, and would feel foolish to participate in a conversation where at the end I am told I misquoted someone when I did not and would not, and if it happened by accident I would instantly correct and apologize, because I will own my mistake. It was established in 1896 by Dr. Albert Edward McKenzie, and claims to supply 60% of Canada's packet seed market. And your end of the conversation is without flaws? Is Ferry Morse owned by Monsanto? They were certainly optional for anyone that had a desire to read them. https://www.msu.edu/~howardp/seedindustry.html. I'm happy with the companies I am doing business with. Find My Store. D.M. Ferry Seed Company - Nursery and Seed Catalogs - Research Guides Ive made a few points that represent my own point of view and you skip right over them in favor of suffocating the conversation with more of your own opinions and explanations and analysis. All the people working tirelessly to be stewards of seeds and to create varieties of seed for home gardeners that are what we all want. Maryann, you mean the 'How to Source Truly High Quality Seeds' ? In 1999, a group of seed catalog companies, led by High Mowing Organic Seeds, teamed up to create the Safe Seed Pledge. Compare Being undecided means I have issues with both sides. --, if I must only bow to Anti-Monsanto preachers or Monsanto marketers.. I'm sure that what I've had to say will not be satisfactory to you. I also have many other heirloom tomatoes which I enjoy too, and I am happy with the current GMO-free assortment of interesting heirlooms and faithful hybrids I get dependable results growing and are delicious. It is currently part of Green Garden Products, a privately owned gardening company based in Massachusetts. Model# 9507. So any conclusions either of us draw from this conversation are not accurate or complete. McKenzie continues to set industry standards while being conscious and responsive to the growing concerns involved with food: cost, quality and safety. I am not "torn", because that is creating a false dichotomy as if I must only bow to Anti-Monsanto preachers or Monsanto marketers. I suspect it is a lack of awareness. Zach - you are right, there is always two sides to an issue, but consider the fact that Monsanto has a fortune to spend on convincing the public to see things from their point of view. I have to agree with PC's comment from May 10th which says: "I disagree that a better understanding of 'an issue' is gotten by simply'getting the word out' with such low quality, false and misleadinginformation with an agenda behind it described above as fear-mongering.". "We do not buy seed from Monsanto-owned Seminis. And is that the only such story about the effects of Monsanto and their seeds and the biotech seed field? 0000536287 00000 n When you say, you would vote with your dollars for products like Roundup and Miracle Gro, and you are angry that a Monsanto product is not available to you, what I hear you saying, is that you are on board as far as seeing the ill effects of inorganic methods of gardening, but youre not really against genetically modified seeds. Is that your point of view?, So, no, I do not envision Monsanto doing anything about it or "rescuing us" as you put it. 0000510282 00000 n Seeds were accumulated from local farms, brought to this warehouse by horse-drawn wagons, then bagged and shipped by rail or freight to Detroit. You call this a debate and I object to the use of that term. Does Ferry-Morse have a catalog? We all want this, right? Check. I attempted to end the conversation very briefly without a long explanation in the comment before this one. I can avoid their products, which I do. A Brief History of Monsanto and Seed Houses Who Got Screwed As a matter of fact, I don't even find it clear and understandable. 0000010754 00000 n Ferry Morse is not owned by Monsanto. That can only be because you have failed to grasp what my concerns are and what they mean. Or do you actually believe that all the lawsuits [which there are many beyond what happened in India] and the complaints against Monsanto are manufactured and Monsanto and GMO seeds are above reproach? Negative: tablerocktina (4 reviews) On Aug 6, 2012, tablerocktina Fountain Inn, SC (Zone 8a) wrote: . Or is it just that you reject the idea that it could possibly be a frightening outcome? I support first-hand experience, accuracy, truthfulness and completeness when evaluating any product. And what is going to happen to the seed they are selling? Thank you prarie. If home gardening seed is a small portion of the seed they sell, then targeting commercial seed sales seems to be the way to go. The release will only happen if it passes the regulatory hurdles and more importantly works. Not all "progress" is a good thing and we often dive headfirst into it without truly knowing the full ramifications. Ferry-Morse. But if you did not have an interest or the time to look at them, you only had to say so. Model # 629382.1220.199.9086. The big picture, this is just more of the False Dichotomy fallacy I discuss in my post which activists on both extremes seek to bully anyone chosing not to align themselves with the extremes. And where does it refer to your belief in anything I said? I saw that article in my travels but didn't have time to read it and I almost posted a link to it earlier. 250 Milli-Gram Eggplant Black Beauty Vegetable (Seed Packet) Model # 466437.199.906735. Our History. I am not concerned about losing varieties of seeds as you are. In 1856, Milo T. Gardner, Dexter M. Ferry, and Eber F. Church[1] organized a small seed-growing company, M.T. So, is that true or isnt it? Here is a link to an article about it on the Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-hassler/bitter-seeds-documentary_b_2155970.html. Large companies, consolidating and growing into mammoth organizations, to me, are responsible for a lot of ill effects in the world. Only if you are trying to convince them of something. How about law suits against GMO because of damage done? Youll have to show me where I have labeled you. Profit over everything, disguised as something else. I had no intention of starting a GMO discussion. trailer <<3F3A45F4763244699204DF9EADBED2DB>]/Prev 598269/XRefStm 1737>> startxref 0 %%EOF 576 0 obj <>stream It is currently part of Green Garden Products, a privately owned gardening company based in Massachusetts. Anyway, let me try again.without going back to reread the thread again. Apparently, based on debate theory. What can I personally do about it? Organic vegetable seeds? I quote your response to them: "Yes, I understand that people exaggerate, often because they've had an emotional reaction to something that really disturbs them. Their focus is on preserving varieties of seed that gardeners and farmers bring to North America when their families immigrate (d), and traditional varieties grown by American Indians, Mennonites and the Amish. Im actually against biotech entirely. Model # 629313.1220.199.9085. Which seed companies are owned by Monsanto? HWnW^aw0Dc`ECS>,Q9U3CJ yTw-yW^~vw_[)sX7yX&^\}-]N {yZ*~>|\f&G[C$zr=^^~g/V_o{q{u@0/3~+!g/q}}yy}u}wW1tPZ:1xHx'5D2C(qq|?D__BO=__{s2HH^CBm+~j-gaoKs'Y(Oq 1DV&9l"&NMetY&U jHek9~)o,*SDHecls|Vb d{9|E K+ H?WZbAP r ^`ry\m8evl&>g'QE9=0xTYJ!jp# Oh dear, I just bought from Tomato Growers! A 200' pier ran out into Lake Charlevoix. It's a conspiracy theory website and anyone can post articles there. And calling my contribution, 'a mess', that you were expected to clean up. Jiffy Seed Starting. D.M. I purchase more seed from FEDCO, than Monsanto (Better Boy, Early Girl). It sounds more like an environmental disaster in India to me, if this information is accurate. So, when your government does not protect you from companies like Monsanto, you are left to do the best you can to protect yourself and to do your measly part to try to protect the availability of unadulterated seed. It does not refer to anything specific and is just disrespectful. You want to make your own decision, I haven't reread the entire thread again, but I certainly have said nothing to attempt to take that choice away from you. Disneyland Park is a registered trademark of The Walt Disney Company. Ferry Morse seeds have thrived through the years. Repeat the same flaws?' The first time I let it slide because you said you hadn't time to read as much as you would like and were unsure about the accuracy of the sources. If someone could only convince farmers to stop using GMO seeds. That is the scariest part to me too. This year, I also ordered seed from Johnny's seed. Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse seeds have been sold continuously in the United States. There is so much common ground between us, it can easily become eclipsed by the emotions surrounding this issue. Always have for 30+ years. You only have to look around at many examples of when we have done that. I assumed good faith on your part and I accept you have a differing point of view, and I would not introduce the possibility of ulterior motive on your part for that! And a few comments later, you said you were not looking for an argument, but I dispute that statement. While most companies have a life span of 50-60 years, the average age of our brands is 122 years! We are proud to carry Organic and Heirloom Vegetable seeds as well. Please explain, what it is about a desire not to see genetically modified seeds and plants that you object to? And since I am anti-Monsanto I see no other way to interpret that, except that you consider me and anyone against what Monsanto does to be an anti-Monsanto preacher. I respect everyone's beliefs which include not giving them false and misleading info because it is morally my belief. The smaller seed companies I was referring to are generally independent operators and do not have the resources of Big Ag behind them. And what does my belief that GMOs are 1000% wrong, or any reason why I believe that, have anything at all to do with the sentence you are responding to? And if it is a fact, that due to the way in which Monsanto was allowed to introduce GMO cotton seed in India, that there is now no non GMO seed available there, then how do we unring that bell? It is a free country and they can do that. I agree with you, it is an emotional issue, so sticking to facts and trying to say no less and no more than what you mean is important, just not always easy to do. Instead of focusing on Monsanto why not try an article like this, that talks about the other side of the coin. About Ferry-Morse. Do you usually answer questions with yes or no answers? We grow our lawn without fertilizer and use clover and leave selective weeds in the lawn. I bought them last year and it was so convenient not to have to search all over the place for some of the items. Pupilla - I just saw this response. Wouldn't it appear they are trying to have a monopoly on seeds? We are in the same boat, since it took me at least as much time as you to compose my replies for you or may I dare say maybe longer :-(, and your replies were not a walk through the park to read and I did visit and read every link you offered. I said --. Argument: an oral disagreement; verbal opposition. If you want to find out who owns a company, go to the website of the attorney general of the state where the company is located. It is your right to have that belief, whether religiously-based, socially-based, scientifically-based, statistically-based, etc. Ferry Morse Seed Company is one of America's oldest and most trusted garden seed companies. You entered the conversation challenging the idea of boycotting GMO seeds. ***If any company you like is on the list, research their ownership yourself.***. I don't think that that is a very reliable list. 0000003294 00000 n
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